Fisher Stevens on...
Conan O'Brien
12/11/1997
Conan OBrien 12/11/97
Host: Conan OBrien (CO)
Co-Host: Andy Richter (AR)
Guests: Fisher Stevens (FS), Todd Barry (a comedian)
CO: My next guest this evening has appeared in numerous films including Bob Roberts and Super Mario Brothers. Currently you can see him on the CBS Television series, Early Edition. Please welcome Mister Fisher Stevens.
{Fisher appears in 4-pc suit, sporting a pair of glasses. Handshake for Andy, Todd, and Conan}
CO: How have you been, my friend?
FS: Ive been excellent.
CO: Yeah?
FS: Yeah. In a lot of airplanes, flying back and forth from Chicago.
CO: You also, you travel a good deal. Remember last time you were on the show, you said you love to go to exotic places. You travel more than most people I know.
FS: I have a bit of a traveling addiction, and, ah, yeah. I went to, ah, Bali this summer, and, ah, went, ah, everybody says Bali...
CO: Thats supposed to be beautiful.
FS: Its gorgeous. But I arrived in the south, and there were tons of surfers, and Australians drinkin beer, so we decided to go up north and, ah, I was with a friend of mine, Alona, and, ah, you know. I had read in a guide book, that, ah, Lonely Planet Guide, that cockfight, cockfighting is a big, big pastime in Indonesia. Theres a lot of betting, and its a very exciting thing - dont miss the cockfights, so, I, ah, rented a jeep, ah, a stick-shift, didnt know how to drive it, drove right into a ditch, and, ah, found....
CO: Didnt you, I mean, you *knew* you didnt know how to drive a stick shift when you got into the jeep, right?
FS: Yeah, yeah. I thought Alona was gonna - shes from L.A., shes like, but no, she couldnt drive it, so ah, I got a quick lesson from the rent-a-car place and it didnt go too well.
CO: Sounds like a good lesson.
FS: I was like, Dudes, just relax - itll be fine. No - it was a disaster. So I hired a guide, and ah, one of the first things I said was I really would love to see a cockfight. Its a big thing. He says, Oh, no problem, no problem, sir. So, ah, four days were driving around looking for cockfights - theres no cockfights. And finally, were on this long road, and, ah, he says Cock! and I go, What? He goes, There! Follow that! Im like, lets go! We see these two little gangster guys in sunglasses like {imitating the sound of a moped} rrrrrrr with this, this burlap sack, and I go In there? He goes, Yes. And so I said, Follow that cock, follow that cock! So we get into the van, were starting to drive, and were like tearing after this little ah, this little moped and these two gangsters...
CO: Uh-huh.
FS: And, ah, they pull over to get a coke. And I buy em, like, cokes, and they say, Yes, yes, you want to see?
Yes. So, they take us to this cockfight, and it was like an arena, like Ben Hur, like thousands of people in this, ah, in this, under a canopy.
CO: Right.
FS: Umm, actually, ah, betting. And there were, you know, all these cockfights. And, ah, hes like, This is a very good cock. Dont worry about it. Im like, Alright. Great. So, ah, my friend at the time, who is a woman, was allowed in, and she actually sat there, and all the men are like looking at her - shes the only woman inside the arena.
CO: They probably dont like women to be in on these things, right?
FS: No, they dont. You know, its a very sexist society, Indonesia. I dont know if youve been there, but, ah...
CO: No, no. Never been there. No.
FS: Ok. Someday, Ill tell you more stories. But anyway, so, ah, we get in there and, ah, its, its unbelievable. Its like prehist- its primitive, and theyre screaming, and throwing money, and theyre having these cockfights. And I had a little Sony, ah, digital camera with a screen, and it was so crowded, that Id hold it up, and I had all these people looking at my, I was like, you know, Roone Arledge {chairman of ABC News} or something, and I was like looking...
CO: People could see on your screen what was going on.
FS: On my video, what was going on inside of the cockfight. And, ah, so finally, my...
CO: Did you make money off this?
FS: Well, my guy, ah, he, hes like, it was his turn, and I, ah, hes like, Bet, so I bet like thirty dollars, and he takes out the smallest, most rinky-dink cock Ive ever seen. Takes it out, and Im like, Oh, no! I bet all this money, hes like, No problem, no problem. And I look at this thing, and in three seconds my, our cock was dead. And I lost it all.
CO: Many stories end that way, yeah. The ah, the... Now, what, were you worried at all about, were, were you at all worried about the, as I think some people would be, like the whole cruelty to animals aspect? Does that bother you?
FS: Yeah, well, that was actually, Alona was in shock. You know, they put spikes, they, it was really horrifying, actually.
CO: They put spikes on the birds?
FS: Yeah, yeah.
CO: I call them birds.
FS: But Conan...
CO: Which makes my story much less interesting, yeah. {in a high voice,} Oh, look at the boid
FS: Yeah, yeah.
CO: {in a low voice,} Its not a bird, its a cock!
FS: Its a cock, Conan. Anyway, ah, yeah, they {laughing} Andy, you know what Im talking about.
AR: Well, Ive been suppressing this the whole time.
CO: Come on.
AR: {girlishly} Hee, hee, hee, hee...
CO: Yeah. Yeah. I was gonna let it go for as long as possible you know...
FS: You know...
CO: I thought for a while, lets just let it go, lets be adults here.
FS: Yeah, but its difficult.
CO: Well, you know, yeah.
AR: Wrong show for that, buddy.
CO: Yeah.
FS: Actually, I had a, I had a pet tortoise.
CO: Uh-huh.
FS: Yeah, it was a put-, a red-, it was called a red-foot tortoise, and I named him Robert Redford.
CO: Mm-hmm.
FS: Umm, and, ah, when I was a kid and, ah, living in New York, I used to travel to see my father in Chicago, and I, ah, I remember having a down jacket and putting the tortoise in my jacket, and buying a ticket, going on the airplane, and I had fallen asleep on the airplane, and I woke up to {screams} Aaaaahhhh! this scream of terror, and I look, and I see my tortoise is walking down the aisle of the airplane, leaving droppings everywhere it goes. And theyre like, Will the person...
CO: Just leaving a gift for everyone wherever he goes.
FS: Yeah, so they were like, Please claim you tortoise, whosoever tortoise it is, but I *do* love animals.
CO: Thats embarrassing to have to be the one thats like, Its my tortoise, and to run down there and Sorry, everybody.
FS: And pick it up, and pick up the...
CO: And pick up everything else, too, I would think.
FS: Right, right. It was pretty horrifying.
CO: Well, ah, Early Edition is Saturdays at 9 oclock on CBS, and...
FS: Yeah, yeah. I fall in love with a Rabbi next week.
CO: On the show?
FS: Yeah, yeah.
CO: Alright.
FS: His name is Alfred, and, ah - no, its ah, this woman, Ellen Goodman {portrayed by Karen Fineman}, ah, she, ah...
CO: Oh, its a *woman* Rabbi?
FS: Yeah, just kidding, it *is* a woman Rabbi.
CO: Ok. I was gonna say, Wow! CBS!
FS: Rad! Yeah!
CO: CBS is really trying hard to change its image.
FS: Yeah.
CO: Tune in to CBS! Alright! Look for that show. Its Early Edition. Thanks a lot, Fisher Stevens.
FS: Thanks, buddy.
CO: I appreciate it. Well be right back.
FS: {waving at audience} Hi, Dudes!
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